Posts by emy the infidel

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As an ex JW, why do many of you support Iraq war?

by dawg in

i'm not trying to make anyone mad here, but you ex -jws were raised in a cult similar to the shiria schools run by imams in the middle east... difference is, these schools are much harsher than the jws.

most of you've had little succes getting your familys out of this cult (the jws) but have somehow bought into the idea that democracy will help stop radical thinking in the musliem world-that spreading democracy in the middle east will somehow stop radical thinking; ignoring the fact that syria, iran and others are already democracies of sorts.

there are 1.5 billion musliems in the world; just like christianity has it's radicals, so does islam, most aren't radical, most aren't hard core terror supporting fools, but some are... they're everywhere, including asian countries which are democracies.

emy the infidel

Iran is not a democracy, of any sort. It is run radical shiite clerics whose goal is to kill all "infidels" so that their messiah the "12th emam" can return. They believe that he cannot and will not return until they kill all of the infidels ("the earth is washed with the blood of the infidels" or some such thing). Stop and think about that. So it is up to them to "hasten" his return. We're standing in the way of their savior being able to return (in their minds) !!! This is what most people in the west don't understand. This is "why we fight" (a troop saying) at this point in history.

There are no true democracies in the middle east except for Lebanon (which is largely christian), but they are being terribly brutalized by Hezzbolah terrorists (which is linked to Iran).

There are radical groups here and there that subscribe to this particular brand of islam. Some are Sunni (which is what AlQueda is), some are Shiite (Iranian). You almost have to keep a score card to keep track of which side any given radical is on.

But the Iranian radicals in control of the gov't are a minority, but a powerful and brutal one. Hopefully the moderate iranians, who don't believe in the emam doctrine will rise up and overthrow the mullahs in charge. The mullahs feel threatened by a true democracy right next door to them. No, democracy isn't the end all and be all of all the worlds troubles, but it could erode the power and influence the mullah/terrorist have by giving people hope of not having to live under brutal terrorist regimes.

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Poor Excuse for an Apostate

by Mum in

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friends

when i tell anyone i am considered an apostate, they usually think i'm joking and fall over laughing.

after thinking about it, i can understand why.

my lifestyle would prompt a farmyard chicken to take up another interest.

emy the infidel

I'm not as comfortable with the Aposterrific thing yet, still have clear memories of the 'fear and loathing campaign of '81' about the ...<thunder crash!>... Apostates!

I won't apologize for my patriotism, firearms, or giggling when I drink --and almost as much not drinking.

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THANKS FOR THE SOFT PLACE TO FALL

by BIG D in

i have been here only a while, but i do appreciate the place, i see there are many honest hearted persons here, that like me are good people, who help with the mirad of issues that arise from years of controling stresses from the jw.. many times i feel the flashbacks, when i read the thoughts of others, it helps alot to know there are others like me , i no longer feel so alone!.

big d.

emy the infidel

many times i feel the flashbacks, when i read the thoughts of others,

yeah, you thought you were the only one too, right?

it helps alot to know there are others like me , i no longer feel so alone!

It does help. Glad you are here.

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half-way house for ex-Jdubs

by tula in

this chart is out of date and i am wondering if anyone can find more contemporary statistics?.

i am wondering if there is some way possible for wbts to be billed for medical expenses caused by the psychological harm inflicted when dubs end up in dr. offices or hospital as a result of spiritual trauma and spiritual warfare?.

seems to me that we could make them take some responsibility.. (i am not providing the link because this is second-hand information).

emy the infidel

Coffee is right, they set up rules instructing the members what freedoms they can and cannot exercize, but will defend this by saying "no one forced them to remain in the organization".

But bringing this up is good Tula. It highlights the destructiveness that can result from stress involved in being a JW. Lurkers probably know the issue all too well, and blame themselves for it.

Lets hope that they will read this and a light will come on, 'hey maybe it's not just me afterall!'.

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Why doesnt this administration stop the flow of immigrants to US?

by jaguarbass in

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friends

west palm beach, fla. - an epic drought in georgia threatens the water supply for millions.

florida doesn't have nearly enough water for its expected population boom.

the great lakes are shrinking.

emy the infidel

Cheap lettuce?

That one world order theory makes sense too.

Wait, how can we run out of water if the ice caps are melting too fast?

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half-way house for ex-Jdubs

by tula in

this chart is out of date and i am wondering if anyone can find more contemporary statistics?.

i am wondering if there is some way possible for wbts to be billed for medical expenses caused by the psychological harm inflicted when dubs end up in dr. offices or hospital as a result of spiritual trauma and spiritual warfare?.

seems to me that we could make them take some responsibility.. (i am not providing the link because this is second-hand information).

emy the infidel

I did a google search myself on drug induced schizophrenia and there were 1,790 hits. It also seems that there is much debate about the full causes, even within the medical community.

The debate is whether illicit drug use can cause it, or exacerbates it. A large percentage of schizophrenic (but not all) have a history of drug use. It certainly doesn't help it.

It generally manifests in women later in life, as far as into the late 30's. I've always thought Andrea Yates, who was very bright and had no history of drug use, was a very tragic example of that. (and most people with schizophrenia will never get to the point of Andrea Yates) Most are able to manage their symptoms very well, as has been pointed out.

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The financial pitfalls of being a jdub

by lovelylil in

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friends

i recently learned that a brother who used to be my husband's best friend sold his home and moved into his fathers house with his wife and two young kids.

this poor guy was always struggling with money issues because of not working extra because of the meetings and he was an elder so he had a lot of responsibilties and could not do much overtime.

also he never went to higher education and was a self taught painter but had no medical insurance which put a strain on the family financially.. i know other people outside the jdubs have financial problems too but don't you agree the witnesses seem to have a large proportion of their members living on or below the poverty line?

emy the infidel

This is probably one of those thorny issues that hurts too much to think about, for most out here.

My only relative in the troof had moved with his wife "to serve where the need was greater" 30 yrs. ago in a very depressed area. They were able to live pretty well even on odd jobs. About 14 yrs. ago I reconnected with them and went to visit. They had sold their nice little house and moved to a transient type apartment, in an industrial area (!?) of that same town. I guessed that the house was probably their only asset. It freaked me out. Now they'd closing in on 60 yrs. old. It's sad.

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It's already starting...sigh

by Dagney in

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friends

the reports:.

"kingdom hall survived!

"as far as we know no brothers and sisters lost their homes in the mountain areas.

emy the infidel

after 9-11 they said things like" oh well they were going to die at Armageddon, and now they will get a resurrection"

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What smells bring back old memories?

by John Doe in

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friends

fresh cut hay in may?.

spring rainshowers?.

a creek with active marine life?.

emy the infidel

blueberry muffins baking -- my childhood home

wild musk cologne -- high school (still wear it sometimes)

wind song perfume -- my grandmother, who'd be a VIP in heaven too

Somewhere I remember hearing that off all types of hallucinations, ole factory (smelling) hallucinations are the most common, and people have them all the time whether they register in your consciousness or not.

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CAN YOU BELIEVE I PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE THIER OWN OPINIONS

by FadingELD in

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friends

although i have only been affiliated with this site for a couple of weeks now there are a few things i have noticed.

i think it is great that so many of you have your own opinions and think for yourselves.

i have recieved alot of great advice and not all of it has been the same.

emy the infidel

That's great fadingelder. You have much to look forward too, b/c it keeps getting better.

I know how you fee even though I've been gone a long time. When I faded it was with the intent of going back eventually. Finally the point had come when I knew all things WT needed to be examined and a decision had to be made. It was a bit scary at first to read and consider people who I knew the WTS didn't approve of. Thankfully the rational part of my brain had gotten stronger and kept overruling the "thought blocking" instilled so long ago.

Hopefully many more will do the same.